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+title: Do you really understand ERE? - Page 3
+date: 2015-07-24T12:29:54Z
+source: http://forum.earlyretirementextreme.com/viewtopic.php?p=74349#p74349
+tags: life
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+When I want or need to use goods and those aren't automatically provided to me, I define that as "work" (for the purpose of this discussion). If I have goods that go unused, I define that as "pollution".
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+At its most fundamental level, ERE is about designing one's world so as to eliminate work (the kind that is required to satisfy needs and wants, not the fun kind that done voluntarily) and pollution (wasted effort, wasted goods, ...). When things are optimally designed goods will flow through me with little effort and waste.
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+In this way ERE is very similar to permaculture. It's a way of setting up a system that requires little maintenance. Compare to a conventional garden where deficiencies must be supplied by the gardener (work) and pollution must be carried away be the gardener with more work.
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+Human living is more complicated than nature because while the latter seeks to evolve towards a steady state, human living is a dynamical process. Therefore ERE also contains a substantial focus on the future. Specifically contingencies and backups. So the difference between ERE and permaculture is that ERE pays more attention to the time component and the probability space.
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+This, I would say, is how I understand ERE. It has two parts: Eliminating work and pollution and considering human living as a dynamic time and probability dependent process.
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+Now, there are standard solutions or designs. The live close to the job, in a small space with less stuff, exercise to work (walk/bike), and earn money to invest for passive income all have the goal of reducing "work" and "pollution". Having interesting/useful hobbies and making connections and staying active all have the goal of considering the time/probability components.
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+There are other solutions as well. \ No newline at end of file